New vs. used

[Big Slick]

So I am not going to lie. I am hating the whole new truck buying experience. Every dealership tells me something different and in all honesty I don't believe any of them anymore. I really would like a 2010 and up F150 lariat or FX4. I can only afford these used and many if not all have around 30-50k on them. Last night a dealer tried to sell me a 2013 brand new f150 XLT for 34 out the door but it was a base model with no bells and whistles.

I am at my wits end and can't decide if its better to go new and add on later when I can or buy used and get everything I want right now, but I won't know how my truck was taken care of by the previous owner.

What is your guys opinion? I've never owned a new vehicle ever so I wouldn't care if I had a new one or not. Please help me come to a logical decision.

[Raptor05121]

Just say: "Show me the carfax"

[GhostRanger]

I say go used and get what you want. As Alex said get a Car Fax before you do anything else on the truck, make sure it isn't screwed up and has been taken care of.

All the vehicle I have ever had have been used when I got them, including the truck I have now. I got what I wanted and am still adding things as I find I want little niceties.

[BFEB]

I would say go used and get the things you want in the truck. However, if you are considering new check out truecar.com. For a baseline of what others are paying from all over.
My new Lariat is basically the base Lariat with a few goodies added (nav, running boards, etc.) and I payed invoice minus rebates which made a 45,000 truck around 38,000 before taxes and junk. It was around 42,000 out the door. That's just some baseline #'s for you.

[Raptor05121]

Wow. Back in 1997, my truck was 16K. Granted it is a base model, from 20s to 40s, is a helluva jump in price.

[BFEB]

Inflation is a bitch.

[RhinoZ24]

Agreed, I'm gunna be paying $60,000 for a new truck when today it would only cost me $43,000 lol. And I would say go used and get everything you want. You'll be happier that way an get a better deal. Carfax it and look the truck over really well yourself. Make sure everything seems right.

[masonic]

I bought my 2011 fx4 ecoboost used and saved like 20k. The only thing it had was tinted tail lights and tinted windows, and my local famous red stripe. I told the dealer to throw in the box rails, cold air, and LED tailgate strip no charge. I've done my hood decal, HID headlights, leveling kit, wind deflectors and I blacked out everything including my rims for under 1000. The only thing I don't have is leather but the insurance company will call me when something comes in, god forbid. As for how the other owner drove it, I don't think anyone can drive my truck the way I like. Even the guy changing my oil. The dealership checks it over before they sell it. My truck also comes with lifetime engine warranty. I just can't get over throwing away that first 20grand as soon as you drive a new truck off the lot.

[RhinoZ24]

That's a pretty good deal right there, lifetime engine warranty. Ever think about blowing your engine? Lmao jk. Sounds like you scored with your truck though.

[DarkFox]

Personally, I would never buy a new vehicle. I'm not a fan of losing 33% value as I drive out of the showroom.
In addition to that, local people are MUCH easier to deal with than salespeople.

I'm a big penny pincher so I would MUCH rather get the used 2010 over the 33% higher (Plus three years newer-worth!) priced 2013.
But then again, I hate my state so much, I made sure to get a 1995 and evade all emissions laws :D
Plus, it's kind of fun sifting through Craig's List ads. Usually you'll get lucky and find a gem after a few days. I was only looking for about two weeks before I found my gem.

[RhinoZ24]

But you have to be careful about the scam artists and people lie too still. That's why it's helpful to get a history report of the vehicle no matter how you buy it used.

[DarkFox]

That's true, but a simple Google search could tell you some general ideas on what to look for when buying For Sale By Owner. Mix that with some decent common sense and you'll blow through the idiots and get straight to those who are just in need of a change for whatever reason.

[RhinoZ24]

True, just do the research and you'll end up happier and with a better deal. Get a used truck lol.

[DarkFox]

An excellent conclusion to an excellent question.
Go used.

[RhinoZ24]

Indeed

[Big Slick]

Okay so how about a 2010 fx4 with 51k miles for 27k out the door?

[RhinoZ24]

Does it have all the bells and whistles? And ultimately it's your choice. It's your money and will be your truck that YOU drive. Get it if you like it and what it has, and if it has no problems or previous damage.

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What engine does it have?

[DarkFox]

51K in three years?
Any chance you know why he/she is selling it?

[RhinoZ24]

People do drive a lot sometimes lol

[DarkFox]

Yeah, but trucks are not supposed to have high mileage when that new. Most people don't buy a truck if they drive 17,000 miles per year.
Since this person clearly did, I'm wondering why it's being sold. There is still plenty of life in it.

[Big Slick]

It was a trade in at a dealership.

[RhinoZ24]

^Because people do that lol. They want an upgrade and trade it in. Or they decide they want something more fuel efficient and trade it in.

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Does it have all the bells and whistles? And ultimately it's your choice. It's your money and will be your truck that YOU drive. Get it if you like it and what it has, and if it has no problems or previous damage.

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What engine does it have?

Anyways, back to the above^

[DarkFox]

It was a trade in at a dealership.

Well look at that, hahaha.
Well, it sounds fairly promising, but if you could answer Sir Ryan's question...

[Big Slick]

Here's a link

http://www.ahford.com/mobile/2010-Ford-F-150-Arlington-IL/vd/14149979

[lee reece]

Yeah, but trucks are not supposed to have high mileage when that new. Most people don't buy a truck if they drive 17,000 miles per year.
Since this person clearly did, I'm wondering why it's being sold. There is still plenty of life in it.

Man did you not travel anywhere ? People drive what they have available to them. Lots of people drive SUVs to travel cause their a larger vehicle and safer. I drive all over the place. Put many sets of tires on my trucks thru the years! Lol

Sent from my iPhone using F150 App

[RhinoZ24]

Here's a link

http://www.ahford.com/mobile/2010-Ford-F-150-Arlington-IL/vd/14149979

It looks clean and no damage. Go check it out in person and take it for a test drive. Also see if it has everything technology wise that you want. If you like it and what goodies it has, get it. If not, don't lol. Also the Carfax said it was $280 above the suggested price, it's not much but see if you can negotiate it down a bit or get the dealer to throw in some extras. Keep us updated.

[masonic]

Looks good, if you're thinking you're going to buy then bug them about that price, throw on some accessories. They probably didn't even give the guy 20 for that trade. They say they're not going to play games but they're lying. There's no way I got all that stuff on mine if they didn't make money.

[Big Slick]

The dealer already said they would do 27k out the door. I walked away from it, but I'm going to call again and ask them what the lowest they will go on it. I would like to pick it up for 25k out the door.

I also have my eyes on a 09 lariat with 49k on it. The dealer is asking 29k but I am going to try and knock this one down as well.

I had no clue that these trucks were going to be this expensive when I started this.

[masonic]

Nice, I like it. Yeah keep drilling them on price then when they're getting lower add the accessories.

[BFEB]

Looks good. They can do better. Don't call them. They'll call you if they want to make the sale.

[Big Slick]

What do you think is a fair price?

[BFEB]

For the'10 FX4?

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I'd try to get them around 25K OTD. Worse they can do is counter offer.

[RhinoZ24]

Well your looking for trucks that are still fairly new lol, when they're originally around 50k or more, these prices are just a little above where they should be. Time to play the negotiating game lol.

[BFEB]

I'm guessing that truck stickers in the mud 40's

[DarkFox]

$1,300 for my '95 :D

But Ryan is correct, you can't expect a 2010 truck to be much less than $25K when it's only been three years.
If they lose 35% of their value once you drive it off the lot, then three years of roughly 5% depreciation per, it only makes sense that you get it for $25K (close to 50% original value) And that's if it's in about 85% or better condition!
That said, don't let them screw you, either, haha.

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah, so it's pretty close to its actual worth, but you can probably haggle for a little less.

[BFEB]

That's what I'm saying. It's a dealers job to sell trucks and cars. They really are insane if they won't make a deal as long as you're in the ballpark.

[RhinoZ24]

Or they already made their quota lol

[BFEB]

It's always good to beat quotas tho

[RhinoZ24]

Good point.

[BFEB]

I know lol

[RhinoZ24]

Dammit all this talk makes me want to go buy another truck lol, damn college taking all my money lmao.

[BFEB]

Funny how that works lol

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah lol

[BFEB]

Got any updates Slick?

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah we kinda hijacked the thread lol. So did you end up getting the truck or no?

[Big Slick]

No worries guys. I was actually looking at not getting an F150 after all. They are just so expensive. I was really bummed until tonight.

Browsing my local dealerships I found a 2011 f150 XLT w/ 25k on it for $29k. Now the last time I went to this dealer they tried to sell me a FX4 for 27 out the door with 52k on it. I'm not gonna lie. That's a little to pricey for that many miles so I passed on it.

Today I went to see if it was still there and found this.
http://www.ahford.com/mobile/2011-Ford-F-150-Arlington-IL/vd/14284812

I'm calling tomorrow and saying that if they will do $25k out the door I will be there with a check afterwork.

I'm very nervous and excited. I hope they take my offer.

[masonic]

Looks good I'd think 25 is reasonable.

[RhinoZ24]

That's pretty low miles and the truck looks great. Go for it! And don't give up, it took me a little over 2 months before I found an F-150 that I liked and that was within my budget range.

[Big Slick]

My dad has a dealer offering a 2012 with 18k for $29k. It's a base model with no bells and whistles, but the only reason I'm not jumping at it is because it was a rental vehicle. I have heard some real nightmare stories about rental vehicles. I'd prefer to own a vehicle that was only owned by one person and driven by one person.

[BFEB]

Personally I would avoid the rental for the exact reasons you stated.

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And IMO that 7000 mile difference is worth the added value of some amenities, but you gotta go with what's right for you.

[RhinoZ24]

My dad has a dealer offering a 2012 with 18k for $29k. It's a base model with no bells and whistles, but the only reason I'm not jumping at it is because it was a rental vehicle. I have heard some real nightmare stories about rental vehicles. I'd prefer to own a vehicle that was only owned by one person and driven by one person.

Never get a rental, they get beat up like crazy.

[BFEB]

Yessir.

[Big Slick]

Well looks like today I do or die day for me. Going today to hopefully break my truck cherry.

[RhinoZ24]

Pop your cherry lmao, goodluck and hopefully you get a great deal

[Big Slick]

Well that didn't take long to end in heart ache. Lowest the dealer could go was 28,525 and after taxes and all the other BS it came to 31,280 out the door. :(

Starting to look at that FX4 now for 27 and some change out the door. Not sure if I should wait or jump. I'm thinking I should wait.

[BFEB]

I find it hard to believe that's the lowest they can go. Especially if you're paying for it on the spot. Are there any other Ford dealers in your area?

[Big Slick]

Yeah there are quite a few, but the problem I am seeing is that many have very few used f150s and those that do usually have more expensive models or they have older models with a ton of miles.

I'm looking at this FX4 that I posted above since its in my budget, but I'm trying to see if they can go lower. Not feeling all too confident though.

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I'm starting to check out carmax.

[Jersey_Joe]

Yeah there are quite a few, but the problem I am seeing is that many have very few used f150s and those that do usually have more expensive models or they have older models with a ton of miles.

I'm looking at this FX4 that I posted above since its in my budget, but I'm trying to see if they can go lower. Not feeling all too confident though.

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I'm starting to check out carmax.

Gota put it on thick homes. If u want it bad enough and u can't live without it. U gota deal with em

[Big Slick]

When they won't budge it's hard to wheel and deal.

[Jersey_Joe]

When they won't budge it's hard to wheel and deal.

They'll budge. Just gota set your price and tell em u want the truck for that amount. When and if they say no. Just get up and leave. They'll call. Don't worry. They wanna sell it as bad as u want it

[RhinoZ24]

Agreed, but try the FX4 since its already at a lower price. You just have to know how to play the dealers like how they try and play you. Walking away is good. Saying you found a better price at another dealer is good too. If you really wanna push their buttons, tell them another car brand has better deals, that'll kill em.

[Big Slick]

What if they call your bluff and say that there is nothing they can do and if the other place is cheaper then to go for it?

[RhinoZ24]

Poker face, all about the face. Be convincing. They want to sell the truck, if they call it, walk away say your going to the other dealer, and they'll probably call you still and make an offer.

[DarkFox]

You could always use blackmail.
Er, wait, that's looked down upon, isn't it...
Threaten their family?
No, that's not it...
I'll get it right eventually.

Normally after a joke like that, I try to actually contribute to the thread at hand, but I can't really think of anything that these intelligent gentlemen have not mentioned. Go get 'em, Tiger.

[BFEB]

Ya it's like a sport. You gotta take it to them or they'll come out on top.

[Jersey_Joe]

Just tell em what u want. They'll come around. Keep up interest and title happin

[BFEB]

Especially if you just stand firm. If they won't play take your business down the road.

[Jersey_Joe]

^^ Boom^^ right there!! Somebody will jump. Not the end of the road. You'll roll past one that u can't live without and it'll happin. Or. They bite. Tell em ther #1 with your favorite finger gesture and leave. Lol jk don't do that. Just be cool and you'll b fine

[masonic]

My first salesman wouldn't deal either. He said "These trucks go so fast we can hardly keep them on the lot. We can always go less truck." Then he would text me daily. Used fiddys around here last about a week. So I was looking at new, but it was like 2 or 3 months at a different dealership until my current truck came up.

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah, it takes patience, but that ensures you get the truck you want and for the right price too.

[BFEB]

Trust me they're just as impatient as you. If they're a reputable dealer that needs to move vehicles to maintain that reputation they should take any reasonable offer. And idk what they paid for that truck in trade, but you aren't too far off. When I traded in my '11 its trade value was $23K - $24K with 13.xxx mi. I'm sure they'll list it at $30K, but take $26 - $28.

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah, they have quotas to meet, they'll make you a deal.

[BFEB]

Any update Slick?

[Big Slick]

I'm debating one of 4 options.
Option A. Pony up the extra 3k and get the 2011 with 25k miles

Option B. get the 2010 FX4 w/ 52k miles

Option C. Keep looking

Option D. Look into another vehicle all together that more comfortably fits my budget (Ford Edge)

[BFEB]

I'm debating one of 4 options.
Option A. Pony up the extra 3k and get the 2011 with 25k miles

Option B. get the 2010 FX4 w/ 52k miles

Option C. Keep looking

Option D. Look into another vehicle all together that more comfortably fits my budget (Ford Edge)

What I would do in your case is...

Option A: renegotiate. I would be very surprised if you couldn't make a deal on that truck for 30k OTD

Option B: that's quite a few miles on a '10. I'd throw that one out for the '11 with the more powerful and economic motor

Option C: can't hurt. There's plenty of trucks out there

Option D: edges are nice my mom just got one! But if you need a truck don't compromise.

[Jersey_Joe]

They'll make it work for three grand. I'm sure of it

[Big Slick]

The manager seemed pretty set on going no lower than 31k OTD on the 2011. How can I play my cards right to get him down on price? I already told him I love the truck but I couldn't go higher than 30k.

[Jersey_Joe]

Tell em 28 and you will sign the papers now. If not. See ya later. Wasn't ment to b

[BFEB]

Just stand firm. That $1000 can't be that important to them.

[Jersey_Joe]

Yup. They'll give.

[Big Slick]

Just for the hell of it I went and checked carmax's website to compare prices. Carmax can get me the same year truck with 10k less miles for 26-27k sticker price. Do I use this as leverage?

[RhinoZ24]

Use it, tell them you found an equivalent truck with less miles and for a lesser price, see if they'll give. Like we've all said, its a game for them, it's like poker, gotta know when to bet it all and when to fold.

[Jersey_Joe]

Just for the hell of it I went and checked carmax's website to compare prices. Carmax can get me the same year truck with 10k less miles for 26-27k sticker price. Do I use this as leverage?

U can. Or u can just go find those trucks and by one and save the money

[RhinoZ24]

That too lol.

[BFEB]

Ya en equivalent vehicle for less definitely stacks the deck in your favor. It may also be worth having a buddy go test drive it and shoot them a low ball offer to make yours more appealing.

[RhinoZ24]

That's actually a great plan, it'll be incentive for them to sell it to you for the price you want.

[Big Slick]

Is there anything to worry about when buying through carmax?

[BFEB]

Never dealt with them, but I imagine an actual Ford dealers vehicle inspection is much more thorough. I'd have the truck looked at by someone who specializes in FoMoCo.

[DarkFox]

Or you could just look for an older model year... I doubt you hands down REQUIRE such a new vehicle, or am I wrong?

[RhinoZ24]

Is there anything to worry about when buying through carmax?

Yeah I'd do what Dan says, get it checked out by an expert and definitely Carfax it. But if you can't make a deal witht the Ford dealer, then save your money and get the equivalent truck from Carmax for less.

[masonic]

Or you could just look for an older model year... I doubt you hands down REQUIRE such a new vehicle, or am I wrong?

Trucks have gotten better, the power, fuel economy, the status symbol of having a new(er) vehicle. Less likely for rust to come out or breakdown expenses. Technology's gotten better, you don't know what life is like after heated seats.

[Jersey_Joe]

Trucks have gotten better, the power, fuel economy, the status symbol of having a new(er) vehicle. Less likely for rust to come out or breakdown expenses. Technology's gotten better, you don't know what life is like after heated seats.

U said it right there. Warm ass in the mourning is fantastic! Can never go without ever again lol

[RhinoZ24]

You guys are spoiled, my ass warms the seat, not the other way around lol.

[Jersey_Joe]

It don't get cold in Cali cuz. Lol

[RhinoZ24]

Exactly, ain't nobody got time for seat warmers here.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lmao. I heard that. That! Was funny. Lol

[masonic]

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

[Jersey_Joe]

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

"Ain't nobody got time Fo dat!" Lol

[DarkFox]

You guys are spoiled, my ass warms the seat, not the other way around lol.

That's about right, haha.
I'll take my plain 'ol bench seat and run, haha.
Honestly, there's little that I like about newer vehicles. You're going to tell me all about this "traction control" bull, right?
I just want to have complete, 100% control of my vehicle. Manual transmission, power nothing. (Alright, ALMOST nothing.) Is that too much to ask? Haha.

Edit: Well, that was a bit naive, wasn't it? I'm sorry, my teenager is showing again. I have to stop that.
I understand there are things that are out of my *direct* control. I just don't like the AMOUNT of those things GETTING out of control, haha.

[Big Slick]

I'm going to reason with the dealer I found 2011 and 2012s cheaper and similar if not lower in miles. If he doesn't play ball I'm going to carmax. F the dealers. I don't have time for these BS games.

[Jersey_Joe]

I'm going to reason with the dealer I found 2011 and 2012s cheaper and similar if not lower in miles. If he doesn't play ball I'm going to carmax. F the dealers. I don't have time for these BS games.

Now ur talkin. Ball is in ur court bro. The way u feel right now? That's how u go In from the door. Lol. I'm sure Ull find a great truck at your price. Good luck homes

[RhinoZ24]

I'm going to reason with the dealer I found 2011 and 2012s cheaper and similar if not lower in miles. If he doesn't play ball I'm going to carmax. F the dealers. I don't have time for these BS games.

Go get em tiger! Lol, yeah go for the dealer, if they don't budge, f*** em and get the cheaper truck from Carmax. After getting it inspected of course.

[Big Slick]

For sure. First thing I'm going to do before I buy any truck is call my mechanic and schedule an appointment to have them look over the whole car and see if there are any issues with the truck. Since most dealerships give you at least 3 days to return the car I plan on having it looked at for those 3 days and pray it comes back clean.

[RhinoZ24]

Good plan and any updates on the truck yet?

[Big Slick]

I haven't checked on it lately. I had class last night and am looking at houses tonight. I won't be able to do anything till tomorrow.

Does telling a dealer that you'll pay cash matter anymore or at least work in helping to lower the price? I talked with my parents and they are willing to float me a loan if it will help lower the price of the truck. I don't know if this even matters anymore, but if paying cash means the dealer will drop his price than ill do it.

[Jersey_Joe]

Well. I would see what kind of deal u can make. The when its all said and done. Say. What can I do for me if I pay cash?

[Big Slick]

I got a feeling these guys aren't going to budge regardless.

They really aren't out of line on their prices. I have only been able to find 2 other trucks online that were close to this one and all that separated them was a few hundred dollars. The ones I saw on carmax were rentals and one was in an accident. So that explains the lower prices.

[RhinoZ24]

Don't get either then, especially one thats been in an accident. Try the cash option, and like we said, they'll play ball. Just play the right cards and you can get them to make a deal you can accept.

[Big Slick]

If the dealership comes down on the FX4 I will get that. If not then I'm going with the 2011 XLT.

[BFEB]

Which one do you like more?

[Big Slick]

The XLT in all honesty.

[RhinoZ24]

Get it then, it'll be cheaper. Only downside is less technology.

[Big Slick]

The XLT is more money because its newer and has less miles.

[RhinoZ24]

Oh, never mind then lol

[BFEB]

I'd go for the XLT. Half the miles would be worth the extra $$$ to me.

[Big Slick]

I think I'm going for the XLT. I test drove it today and realized a little bonus perk that went unmentioned. The 2011 comes with a backup camera and backup sensors.

Plus the FX4 must have belonged to an ex smoker because that truck smells like cigarette smoke bad and I don't know if the dealer can get that smell out. I turned on the heat and i was like "dafuk is that!?" So I am sort of ruling that one out unless the dealer can guarantee that they can get that smell out.

[RhinoZ24]

Most likely not. I'd just get the XLT for a little more $$ but less miles.

[Big Slick]

Just bought my first truck. Well it's on hold I get it tomorrow.

I went with the 2011 XLT

[masonic]

Right on congrats. Post pictures when you get it.

[Big Slick]

I will.

[RhinoZ24]

Congrats man and welcome to truck ownership lol. Yeah, definitely post up some pics and what engine did that have? The 5.0 right?

[Big Slick]

Yep. I am excited to post pics.

[Jersey_Joe]

Yep. I am excited to post pics.

Congrats man

[BFEB]

Sweet!!! Way to go! Definitely post up some pics! I'm just curious and you can keep it to yourself if you don't feel like sharing, but did the dealer finally play ball?

[Big Slick]

No. That was the bottom line. I wish I could have got it for less, but in all honesty I am happy with what I got. It basically has everything that I wanted.

[Jersey_Joe]

No. That was the bottom line. I wish I could have got it for less, but in all honesty I am happy with what I got. It basically has everything that I wanted.

F'n fantastic!!!!! So happy for ya bud. HAPPY TRUCK! Gota post some pics now!! Congrats dude. Glad u got one lets see it!

[BFEB]

I'd still say you got a good deal

[Big Slick]

I think so too. I'm going to do the paperwork now and hope to post pics in a few hours when I get home. Damn salesman are already trying to sell me extra BS over the phone.

[BFEB]

Oh ya that's how they roll. Anything to line their pockets more

[RhinoZ24]

No. That was the bottom line. I wish I could have got it for less, but in all honesty I am happy with what I got. It basically has everything that I wanted.

Yeah the XLT's are nicely equipped, I love mine. Congrats again though!

[Big Slick]

Thanks a lot guys! I really really REALLY appreciate all of your help in this matter. Almost done filling everything out.

[RhinoZ24]

That's what we're here for. And try to keep some rubber on the tires on the way home lol.

[BFEB]

U should also just give a general report on how you like the truck after a week or so. I.E. power, mileage, drivability, ect

[Big Slick]

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Here's my new ride

[BFEB]

Good looking truck! Was the window sticker in with the manual? I bet that was originally a $40,000 truck!

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Never mind. I looked up your window sticker lol. I was only $125 off lol. That's a very well equipped XLT. I think you got a pretty damn good deal!

[Jersey_Joe]

Sharp truck slick. Best of luck to u with it. Welcome to the Blue oval!

[Big Slick]

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It's raining so here's one of it at home. I have only driven this truck for 20 miles and I love it. Smooth ride, quiet interior, 12mpg avg so far, lots of room. I really love this truck. I didn't think I could love any vehicle as much as my Mustang GT, but I was wrong.

[BFEB]

That truck is bitchin!

[Jersey_Joe]

<img src="http://www.f150nation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3550"/>

It's raining so here's one of it at home. I have only driven this truck for 20 miles and I love it. Smooth ride, quiet interior, 12mpg avg so far, lots of room. I really love this truck. I didn't think I could love any vehicle as much as my Mustang GT, but I was wrong.

Ahhhh. Ur just like me. Gota have both. Lol. U still got ur mustang?

[RhinoZ24]

<img src="http://www.f150nation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3550"/>

It's raining so here's one of it at home. I have only driven this truck for 20 miles and I love it. Smooth ride, quiet interior, 12mpg avg so far, lots of room. I really love this truck. I didn't think I could love any vehicle as much as my Mustang GT, but I was wrong.

All city miles? And it's the 5.0 right? It looks like it has a 5.0 emblem from the Mustang GT on there but the picture is too blurry to tell lol.

[BFEB]

Ya it's got em on the doors. I zoomed in lol. I'm considering a set, but I'd put em under the fender badges

[Big Slick]

Ahhhh. Ur just like me. Gota have both. Lol. U still got ur mustang?

No, unfortunately 2 weeks ago my 2002 Mustang GT got t-boned after a kid in a explorer ran a red light and smashed into my driver side door. I had a lot of time, money and work into that car. So it hurt bad when it got totaled. I attached a pic of it.

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Anyways, that's how I got into looking for my new truck. As sad as it was to lose my baby, this is really easing the pain.

[masonic]

Sad it had to happen that way. Could be a lot worse.

[RhinoZ24]

That sucks man, but at least you get a new toy and can make it a beast too.

[Jersey_Joe]

No, unfortunately 2 weeks ago my 2002 Mustang GT got t-boned after a kid in a explorer ran a red light and smashed into my driver side door. I had a lot of time, money and work into that car. So it hurt bad when it got totaled. I attached a pic of it.

<img src="http://www.f150nation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3551"/>

Anyways, that's how I got into looking for my new truck. As sad as it was to lose my baby, this is really easing the pain.

Oh no! Such a shame.

[BFEB]

Ya that's crappy.

[Jersey_Joe]

Ah Ull get another. I did the same thing. There's only so long u can wait. Ull see. Lol

[Big Slick]

Well that may be true, but not for a long long time. Looking to buy a house, start a family and all that crap haha. So this will have to hold me for awhile.

[Jersey_Joe]

Well that may be true, but not for a long long time. Looking to buy a house, start a family and all that crap haha. So this will have to hold me for awhile.

I'm livin proof. Lol one day. Have fun with ur new toy though. Lots of power In that motor

[RhinoZ24]

I'm livin proof. Lol one day. Have fun with ur new toy though. Lots of power In that motor

Agreed