New truck

[F-Monster]

F-150
Super crew 157'
Lariat, FX-4
502A
Sport
Nav,roof etc
RC with 20x10 -18mm 35/12.5/20

Love the results

What do you think?

[anaheim_drew]

Nice truck. Welcome

[FX4Life]

Pretty badass truck! Welcome

[cooperf150-06]

Welcome

[Jersey_Joe]

Beast!!! Looks great! Welcome to the forum. How do u like it?

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[anaheim_drew]

He doesn't..

http://www.f150nation.com/introduce-yourself/12868-new-truck-new-member.html#post117773

[FX4Life]

He doesn't..

http://www.f150nation.com/introduce-yourself/12868-new-truck-new-member.html#post117773
He will if he follows your link haha

[Jersey_Joe]

He doesn't.. http://www.f150nation.com/introduce-yourself/12868-new-truck-new-member.html#post117773
Well. This heavy @$$ tires will do that to ya. Lol. I pulled my car through the mountains with an enclosed trailer before all the serious mods and I never had a prob. Needs a 5star tune and a sct x4 as drew stated.

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[F-Monster]

Well. This heavy @$$ tires will do that to ya. Lol. I pulled my car through the mountains with an enclosed trailer before all the serious mods and I never had a prob. Needs a 5star tune and a sct x4 as drew stated.

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before installing those on i had the same issue, but with M-T i lost even more power lol. imagine that driving on higway when i let go the gas pedal the pick up brakes by it self haha

anyone has results on paper, before & after a 5star tune and a sct x4 Setup?

[anaheim_drew]

Did you look at the link I posted for you?

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He will if he follows your link haha
He didn't. Some newbies have trouble following helpful advice if they have to put in a little effort.

[FX4Life]

Did you look at the link I posted for you?

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He didn't. Some newbies have trouble following helpful advice if they have to put in a little effort.
Hey now don't jump to conclusions and bash the noob. Maybe he did, but maybe he is only asking up follow-up questions about five 5-star and the X4 in particular

[anaheim_drew]

If he had went to their site, he would have seen what he asked for; results on paper, before & after a 5star tune and a sct x4 Setup

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Plus I asked him if he had looked at the link I posted for him when he was online. No reply . When people help you it's pretty standard that you comment on the information they provided.

[FX4Life]

If he had went to their site, he would have seen what he asked for; results on paper, before & after a 5star tune and a sct x4 Setup

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Plus I asked him if he had looked at the link I posted for him when he was online. No reply . When people help you it's pretty standard that you comment on the information they provided.
I agree with the last statement but some people can't check the forums all the time.

Also he was asking us if we had personal dynos or knew of Dyno graph from other customers, not from five-star themselves.

Just saying.... let's see what this guy is about before we just go off on him LOL

[anaheim_drew]

I posted the link yesterday at 11:30 pm. He was online today as late as 7:30 am He checked the forums.
There are graphs from 5 star customers posted if you go to their site and follow the link

Next

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lol

[FX4Life]

I posted the link yesterday at 11:30 pm. He was online today as late as 7:30 am He checked the forums.
There are graphs from 5 star customers posted if you go to their site and follow the link

Next
How do you know that he didn't check the link quickly before going to work?

He asked a simple question. I looked at it like maybe he wanted our personal experience. I for one do not trust Dyno graphs from manufacturers. I put much more stock in customers personal Dyno graphs.

To be honest all you had to do was simply point out that five star has Dyno graphs on their site, with the link you provided. Then wait for him to have more time to fully check it out.

I'm not trying to defend him, and God forbid he's an idiot. I'm just pointing out that you got a little defensive that he didn't worship you right away because you provided a link

[Jersey_Joe]

before installing those on i had the same issue, but with M-T i lost even more power lol. imagine that driving on higway when i let go the gas pedal the pick up brakes by it self haha anyone has results on paper, before & after a 5star tune and a sct x4 Setup?
Custom Dynomemeter Chassis Tuning Products and Services - 5 Star Tuning (http://Www.5startuning.com). That site will have all the answers u like
The engine brake is a really nice feature
You have the fx4? I have the 3.55 gear ratio. I truley had no prob pulling. You should have the 3.73 set up. Check em out and go grime there. There are many out there. But these guys r the best IMO.

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[anaheim_drew]

In April they did a gear swap to 3.73 on a 2015 F150 5.0.
Truck has a lot more low end snap through out the gears and drive easy truck maintains some very good fuel mileage.

[Jersey_Joe]

In April they did a gear swap to 3.73 on a 2015 F150 5.0.
Yup. Theres

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[anaheim_drew]

Needs a 5star tune and a sct x4 as drew stated.....
No matter how it came out, my goal was to help the guy.

[F-Monster]

hey guys,

i saw the site and all the info. im just not satisfied with the numbers.

even with the mods its doesnt come close to what 3.5 ecoboost is delivering at low RPM's ( 3.5 is at 420lbs @ 2500rpm and the 5.0 is 387 @ 3850rpm ) this is a huge gap i want to compensate the loss compared to my 3.5

I love the truck overall. the roar of a v8 is awesome.

I had worked and pleasure driven the 2014 FX-4 3.5L with 3.55 for almost 2 year and a half. the truck pulled hard and when my enclosed trailer attached (7X14 v-nose loaded around 2500LBS and total 4000lbs) i almost never noticed if i were hauling or not.

the engine that i opted for the 5.0 with 3.73 ratio was because it was the only one available at the dealer and the sales rep told me you wouldnt notice anything if your not hauling 10 000LBS.

the first day i attached my trailer trailer to it the truck i instanly felt the lack of torque! HUGE difference! like just from 50km-h to 100km-h is just terrible on full throttle. if feels like im hauling 15 000LBS

my real Question is is there any way i could have same specs or better as the 3.5 ecoboost? i really want 420lbs @ 2500rpm or better! if not i really have to sell the truck its crazy weak engine

PS: im hauling 4000-4500lbs 80% of the time that im using the truck so its really a big deal for me

thanks for your help and advice! im just have no experience in american v8's tuning im used to tune turbo german cars lol

[Ford Fan#1]

hey guys, i saw the site and all the info. im just not satisfied with the numbers. even with the mods its doesnt come close to what 3.5 ecoboost is delivering at low RPM's ( 3.5 is at 420lbs @ 2500rpm and the 5.0 is 387 @ 3850rpm ) this is a huge gap i want to compensate the loss compared to my 3.5 I love the truck overall. the roar of a v8 is awesome. I had worked and pleasure driven the 2014 FX-4 3.5L with 3.55 for almost 2 year and a half. the truck pulled hard and when my enclosed trailer attached (7X14 v-nose loaded around 2500LBS and total 4000lbs) i almost never noticed if i were hauling or not. the engine that i opted for the 5.0 with 3.73 ratio was because it was the only one available at the dealer and the sales rep told me you wouldnt notice anything if your not hauling 10 000LBS. the first day i attached my trailer trailer to it the truck i instanly felt the lack of torque! HUGE difference! like just from 50km-h to 100km-h is just terrible on full throttle. if feels like im hauling 15 000LBS my real Question is is there any way i could have same specs or better as the 3.5 ecoboost? i really want 420lbs @ 2500rpm or better! if not i really have to sell the truck its crazy weak engine PS: im hauling 4000-4500lbs 80% of the time that im using the truck so its really a big deal for me thanks for your help and advice! im just to tune turbo german cars not american v8's lol turbocharge? Haha. That would give you a oomph. But a tune would give you more power

[anaheim_drew]

A supercharger is what you want.

[F-Monster]

ROUSH?

Phase 2

Most highly-engineered supercharger system for the 2015-2016 F-150 on the market

650 hp @ 6500 rpm and 585 lb-ft @ 4000rpm
+265 hp (+69%) and +198 lb-ft (51%) increase over stock (385 hp/387 lb-ft)
R2300 Supercharger featuring new TVS Technology. The new Twin Vortices Series features new four-lobe rotors with greatly enhance thermal eficiency, enabling greater volumetric capacity at higher revolutions per minute (RPM)
All-new, high-capacity, low-restriction air filter and complete induction system
Large aluminum intercooler, low-temperature radiator with molded air duct, and high-capacity degas bottle
ROUSH-designed high-flow fuel injectors
Large 60mm dual-bore throttle body
Custom designed, heavy-duty first sheave FEAD system
ROUSH calibration file delivered with exclusive ROUSH Diagnostic Tool (RDT)
Includes 3-year/36,000-mile ROUSH Parts only limited warranty

this sounds amazing! but at 10K investment to get that missing 33lbs of torque at 2500rpm? im not sure if its worth it. not counting the increased fuel consumption

[anaheim_drew]

Those are flywheel numbers on a 4x2 with stock wheels. Your numbers would be less

[F-Monster]

i undestand all i need as i said is that missing 33lbs of torque at 2500rpm

hehe no tune for that?

[anaheim_drew]

did you have mt tires on your other truck

[F-Monster]

no, but as i said i just installed the mt tires last week. i compared oem 20 inch rims on the 2014 with 20 inch oem rims on the 2016. the difference is the 2014 was 3.55 ratio versus 3.73 on the 5.0 does that make a big difference with oem tires?

[anaheim_drew]

i undestand all i need as i said is that missing 33lbs of torque at 2500rpm

hehe no tune for that?
You can pick up 33lbs of torque in the lower rpm range with one of the kits offered by 5 star. Your truck now puts down less than 300lbs of rwtq due to the tire and wheel combo

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[F-Monster]

maan, i love how the truck looks with those toyo 35 mt tires. i have to find a solution to my problem i think i have 2 choices turbo or supercharger


lets see anyone else have their own 2 cents

[anaheim_drew]

no, but as i said i just installed the mt tires last week. i compared oem 20 inch rims on the 2014 with 20 inch oem rims on the 2016. the difference is the 2014 was 3.55 ratio versus 3.73 on the 5.0 does that make a big difference with oem tires?
No. But the eb still has more torque. I looked up 2014 eb with 3.55 vs 2014 5.0 with 3.73 they are rated the same for towing capacity.

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maan, i love how the truck looks with those toyo 35 mt tires. i have to find a solution to my problem i think i have 2 choices turbo or supercharger


lets see anyone else have their own 2 cents
No turbo kit available.There are other options available for less than a supercharger. I'm a supercharger and turbo guy myself. 2 mbz supercharged cars, 1 ford supercharged truck and another 911 tt in the mix.

[F-Monster]

Maybe my truck in particular has a problem? Can that be a chance? I maybe should let a tech look at it @ ford

[anaheim_drew]

Maybe. Did you have your speedo adjusted for your new size tires?

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Maybe you are expecting to much from your 5.0

[F-Monster]

How can you adjust the speedometer? I was only expecting same or not noticeable hauling experience from my 5.0 compared to the eb

[anaheim_drew]

How is that? They are two different engines.

[F-Monster]

Because I trusted the sales rep and he told me you wouldn't notice anything get the 5.0 your only hauling 4000lbs. Now I'm noticing a huge power loss. If anyone reads these posts and your deciding to choose between 5.0 or eb my advice would be stay away from 5.0 if your hauling

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Now I'm stuck with a almost 70k$ truck that can't even haul a 4000lbs trailer to me needs

[Jersey_Joe]

maan, i love how the truck looks with those toyo 35 mt tires. i have to find a solution to my problem i think i have 2 choices turbo or supercharger lets see anyone else have their own 2 cents
Roush charger is awesome. It's also available on American muscle.com for a good deal. I'll see if I can link u.
On my last truck I had the toyo mt's. My stock tore was 42lbs. My mt load range E were 96lbs a piece. That is a lot. I didn't tear anything up. That truck was a beast. But I could notice the diff once I hooked em up

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You don't have to go Roush either. Whipple makes a nice blower and can put you in the 700hp range with some other add as well.
But. It's still 7gs. That's a lot of scratch

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[cooperf150-06]

I have had no issues with my 2014 5.0 and have pulled campers, boats and my 16ft trailer and I live in WV so mountains everywhere lol. Yes I would like to have more power but that is me but as far as stock is I have not had an issue pulling.

[Jersey_Joe]

Because I trusted the sales rep and he told me you wouldn't notice anything get the 5.0 your only hauling 4000lbs. Now I'm noticing a huge power loss. If anyone reads these posts and your deciding to choose between 5.0 or eb my advice would be stay away from 5.0 if your hauling ---------- Now I'm stuck with a almost 70k$ truck that can't even haul a 4000lbs trailer to me needs
I think that that statement is false.

10616

Here is my trailer with 4,000 lbs car in it. Before I did all my mods. And bro. No lie. Pulled like it wasn't there. Of course it's gonna downshift more. It's a naturally aspirated v8. That 6 had effortless thrust behind it. They are two totally different engines. I just think it's a lot different right now for u. But it pulles. That's for sure

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[Jersey_Joe]

Because I trusted the sales rep and he told me you wouldn't notice anything get the 5.0 your only hauling 4000lbs. Now I'm noticing a huge power loss. If anyone reads these posts and your deciding to choose between 5.0 or eb my advice would be stay away from 5.0 if your hauling ---------- Now I'm stuck with a almost 70k$ truck that can't even haul a 4000lbs trailer to me needs
How long u had it?

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If it's that bad for ya. Don't dump 7gs into it for a supercharger. Take your wheels and tires off and go tell em u hate it. And work a deal.

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[anaheim_drew]

Whipple makes a nice blower and can put you in the 700hp range with some other add as well.
But. It's still 7gs. That's a lot of scratch

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Whipple 525 horsepower and 450lb-ft of torque at the wheels $8500

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Don't dump 7gs into it for a supercharger. ..
He cant get a supercharger for 7gs in Canada.

[Jersey_Joe]

Whipple 525 horsepower and 450lb-ft of torque at the wheels $8500 ---------- He cant get a supercharger for 7gs in Canada.
I must b gifted then lol. Yes. Yes I am lol.

I never take the Canada thing into consideration


It is a sweet mf'r tho

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[F-Monster]

I will take a video of inside the cabin to show you how the engine is struggling when hauling maybe you will understand me better. You Guys tell me if its normal.

[Jersey_Joe]

I will take a video of inside the cabin to show you how the engine is struggling when hauling maybe you will understand me better. You Guys tell me if its normal. does it struggle in 2nd and 3rd? I've heard some things about that but as soon as a tune was installed. That ish was gone.

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[anaheim_drew]

I must b gifted then lol. Yes. Yes I am lol.

I never take the Canada thing into consideration


It is a sweet mf'r tho

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Yes you are gifted. Special some would say. Full of bs if you think your truck has 700rwhp lol

We have installed 3 Whipple kits on sema trucks in the past 2 years

[Jersey_Joe]

Yes you are gifted. Special some would say. Full of bs if you think your truck has 700rwhp lol We have installed 3 Whipple kits on sema trucks in the past 2 years
Lol

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Your to kind lll

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[anaheim_drew]

thank you kind sir

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Roush charger is awesome. .
Without a custom tune, it sucks ass bad.

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Top speed just under 100 mph

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I will take a video of inside the cabin to show you how the engine is struggling when hauling maybe you will understand me better. You Guys tell me if its normal.
Here is a video with a f150 5.0 with 5 star mods towing 5k

https://youtu.be/cwc1rB03w2w?list=UUNftAUiw4U8eUrBIYXWBYqw

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Towing 5k lbs with F150 5.0L Boss Intake

[Jersey_Joe]

thank you kind sir ---------- ---------- Without a custom tune, it sucks ass bad. ---------- Top speed just under 100 mph ---------- Here is a video with a f150 5.0 with 5 star mods towing 5k Video Link: https://youtu.be/cwc1rB03w2w?list=UUNftAUiw4U8eUrBIYXWBYqw (https://youtu.be/cwc1rB03w2w?list=UUNftAUiw4U8eUrBIYXWBYqw) ---------- Towing 5k lbs with F150 5.0L Boss Intake
I know "we " wouldn't. But why would people buy a supercharger and not have it tuned. Kind of a waste. Lol

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[DWC (donewithchevy )]

Because I trusted the sales rep and he told me you wouldn't notice anything get the 5.0 your only hauling 4000lbs. Now I'm noticing a huge power loss. If anyone reads these posts and your deciding to choose between 5.0 or eb my advice would be stay away from 5.0 if your hauling

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Now I'm stuck with a almost 70k$ truck that can't even haul a 4000lbs trailer to me needs

^^^ Maybe you've got a mechanical problem with the truck ?

I've towed 4,000 lbs about a dozen times and never knew the trailer was there ! And didn't feel it the two times I've towed 6,000 lbs for that matter . Guys I know on forums and a few friends have towed between 8 and 10k lbs and have not noticed any struggle either .

I'll trade you my 2011 5.0 that can tow for your newer one ur not happy with straight up . If it helps you get un.... "STUCK" . lol !

All kidding aside ,..... Either you have a mechanical problem or are just use to the extra torque of the EB, either way the 5.0 can pull 4000k with ease IMHO.

[anaheim_drew]

Being in the business, I have learned that there is no one size fits all when it comes to mods. Ex. stock f150 sucks, add a blower with manufacture tune, fast. Then they get use to that and want to know what a custom tune does. mind blowing.
People are also afraid of blowing up if the have little to no information or knowledge.
Warranty issues are a concern.
That's why anyone I help I want them to learn as much as they can before they get into something they will regret.

[DWC (donewithchevy )]

I hear ya drew . But my stock truck has never felt like it was struggling towing between 4 and 6k. Only way I know I'm pulling a load is when I calculate the mpg's lol !

Did the op not check the specs before purchase. Seriously , I've had zero issues pulling his weight in my 11

[anaheim_drew]

The problem is he towed with an EB for 2 1/2 years. He didn't do his research and listened to a salesperson who only had 5.0's on his lot.

[DWC (donewithchevy )]

Sounds like.

[anaheim_drew]

He also didn't do his research on how mods can change the way his truck drives and rides. Going from a 32 tire to a 35 tire with 3.73 gears changes the gear ratio to a 3.41

[DWC (donewithchevy )]

True. Sounds like 4.10's or 4.56's are in order .

[anaheim_drew]

True. Sounds like 4.10's or 4.56's are in order .
If I was him, I would do the 5* boss intake package with tuner, tunes etc.

[F-Monster]

thank you kind sir ---------- ---------- Without a custom tune, it sucks ass bad. ---------- Top speed just under 100 mph ---------- Here is a video with a f150 5.0 with 5 star mods towing 5k Video Link: https://youtu.be/cwc1rB03w2w?list=UUNftAUiw4U8eUrBIYXWBYqw (https://youtu.be/cwc1rB03w2w?list=UUNftAUiw4U8eUrBIYXWBYqw) ---------- Towing 5k lbs with F150 5.0L Boss Intake

Ok wow!! My 5.0 doesn't even have 1/4 of the power you have!! Can wait to show you

[anaheim_drew]

It's no suppose to. Your engine is stock and the one above has the mods that you thought would no come close to the ecoboost.

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And it's not my truck its a 5* tuned and modified truck. With the same mods your truck would have less than the one in the video.

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http://5startuning.com/wp-content/uploads/X4BOSS.jpg

[F-Monster]

It's no suppose to. Your engine is stock and the one above has the mods that you thought would no come close to the ecoboost. ---------- And it's not my truck its a 5* tuned and modified truck. With the same mods your truck would have less than the one in the video. ----------

Do you have the link to this setup your talking about please?

[anaheim_drew]

Yes I do. Here it is.
0. 2015+ F150 5.0L 5 Star Tuning Boss 302 Intake Manifold Kit with SCT X4 7015 with 6 Custom Tunes - 5 Star Tuning (http://5startuning.com/product/2015-f150-5-0l-boss-302-kit/)

When you have looked at it in detail, ask questions when you can.

[anaheim_drew]

I will take a video of inside the cabin to show you how the engine is struggling when hauling maybe you will understand me better. You Guys tell me if its normal.5* says it's normal.With their tuning it resolves the problem.

The 6 speed transmission that comes standard with the F150 5.0L V8 is a big improvement in driver controls over passed 4 speed transmissions. However, there are still some benefits to be had recalibrating normal daily shift strategies.
We have noticed that while in normal everyday mode that the transmission will move into 6 gear really quickly around town with speeds as low as 30-38 mph this really lugs the engine and when trying to accelerate there is a pretty good delay to either downshift or accelerate. We can correct this by moving some shift strategies patterns around in all gears especially in 5th and 6th gears.
In the tow/haul mode the Factory strategies in are very inefficient. 6th gear is useless under 60 mph. Coasting or slowing down the downshifts don’t command soon enough to keep the RPM’s up in torque range and when back in throttle multiple down shifts occur. Gears 2nd, 3rd and 4th are the gears the truck likes to run at under 60 mph towing 5000lb or heavier trailer but its in 6th gear at 50 mph lugging engine. Once RPM’s builds to 3000 plus the truck pulls like a champ but factory strategies keep RPM’s low. For owners of F150 5.0L v8 going to tow a travel trailer camper or trailers over 5000 lbs the factory strategies will hunt all over the place in tow/haul mode. We have recalibrated tow/haul mode strategies that enhances keeping the engine RPM’s elevated to take advantage of the torque band in this 5.0L v8 less downshifting and taking advantage of gears 2nd, 3rd and 4th more. All of our calibrations have this new tow/haul strategy except economy mode calibrations.

[F-Monster]

5* says it's normal.With their tuning it resolves the problem.

The 6 speed transmission that comes standard with the F150 5.0L V8 is a big improvement in driver controls over passed 4 speed transmissions. However, there are still some benefits to be had recalibrating normal daily shift strategies.
We have noticed that while in normal everyday mode that the transmission will move into 6 gear really quickly around town with speeds as low as 30-38 mph this really lugs the engine and when trying to accelerate there is a pretty good delay to either downshift or accelerate. We can correct this by moving some shift strategies patterns around in all gears especially in 5th and 6th gears.
In the tow/haul mode the Factory strategies in are very inefficient. 6th gear is useless under 60 mph. Coasting or slowing down the downshifts don’t command soon enough to keep the RPM’s up in torque range and when back in throttle multiple down shifts occur. Gears 2nd, 3rd and 4th are the gears the truck likes to run at under 60 mph towing 5000lb or heavier trailer but its in 6th gear at 50 mph lugging engine. Once RPM’s builds to 3000 plus the truck pulls like a champ but factory strategies keep RPM’s low. For owners of F150 5.0L v8 going to tow a travel trailer camper or trailers over 5000 lbs the factory strategies will hunt all over the place in tow/haul mode. We have recalibrated tow/haul mode strategies that enhances keeping the engine RPM’s elevated to take advantage of the torque band in this 5.0L v8 less downshifting and taking advantage of gears 2nd, 3rd and 4th more. All of our calibrations have this new tow/haul strategy except economy mode calibrations.

here's the video, you can see how the rpm is struggling to go up to 100km-h. with my ecoboost i didn't have to floor the pedal to reach normal driving speeds... took me almost 18 secs from 50 to 100kmh (30 to 60 mph)

what do you think?

https://youtu.be/C4_rxhqlwp4

[anaheim_drew]

It sounds normal for a stock 5.0 with 35's towing 4500 lbs

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[FX4Life]

I don't have experience with that particular motor but that looks about right to me just like Drew said. It doesn't look like you were foot to the floor the whole time

[Jersey_Joe]

Didn't sound bad to me. At all. Mine is 3 times as loud and does just fine.

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[anaheim_drew]

You also have a tune and don't have 35's.

[F-Monster]

then i was right from the beginning. the 5.0 is a poor engine. you guys drive a 3.5 twin turbo you will see and feel the torque difference at low rpms. i will not put a penny on this engine. guess what my next truck in 4 years is going to be ;)

[Jersey_Joe]

then i was right from the beginning. the 5.0 is a poor engine. you guys drive a 3.5 twin turbo you will see and feel the torque difference at low rpms. i will not put a penny on this engine. guess what my next truck in 4 years is going to be ;)
I drove em both. That coyote motor is pretty kick @$$!!! Sorry your not diggin it

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[F-Monster]

im just saying daily driver its great. the engine is struggling with towing compared to the EB. i have driven an EB and towed 4.5K lbs for 30 months straight( 5 days a week ) now towing with the 5.0 sucks big ass. i made a poor choice, its my fault to not had it test driven it towing my own trailer.

[anaheim_drew]

You made a poor choice by not being informed before you went to the dealership. You were happy with your EB because it did what you needed it to for 30 months 5 days a week. So thats what you wanted and should have got. If that dealership did not have what you wanted, bye. There are other dealerships in your town I'm sure. And if not, you could have ordered one from Ford.

With that said, what are you going to do at this point?

[F-Monster]

5* boss intake package with tuner, tunes etc.? is that a DIY? or need a mechanic? i need 50hp with 50 torque

[Jersey_Joe]

5* boss intake package with tuner, tunes etc.? is that a DIY? or need a mechanic? i need 50hp with 50 torque it's a diy bud. Just the intake. And to Intall the tunes is a breeze.

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[wayneseymour]

Looking mean man. Great job.

Our trucks are similar, but yours is meaner! :)

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

Nice truck, looks good

[wayneseymour]

Thanks man.