3" Exhaust + 5.4L 2V

[dchawk81]

As I was crawling under my vehicle to change differential fluids I noticed my muffler is on its way out. I'm not about to try to patch a new one in so I'll just do a cat-back like on the Escort. It's way easier.

That makes me ask if it's worth a 3" exhaust now since I found one that I think I like at a reasonable price. I know it won't be 3" the whole way back because of the cats so is there any point or should I just stick with stock?

Oh and no I'm definitely not doing headers. It has stock manifolds on it.

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BTW if it's already 3" you can ignore my idiocy. It just doesn't look like 3 to me.

[RhinoZ24]

I believe the pipe is all 2 1/2" at least it was for mine and they don't change it much.

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[dchawk81]

I found a Walker parts diagram. It does seem to be 2.5" based on the clamps.

I'm considering this setup:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JTJ47W/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_cyJrub1ZBH4W5

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Bet I'll end up saying "screwit" and putting a cheaper, more stock-ish set on.

[5pointSlo]

2.5 would be just fine. Even if there is a 3" available I wouldn't use it. Everyone seems to think that you always want ad minimal back pressure as possible but that isn't always the case. With zero back pressure your exhaust actually creates a lot of turbulence which can ultimately hurt your HP numbers. Without some type of forced induction to counter it, its worthless. However using the right diameter pipe, the small back pressure created, along with the resonance of the pipe, work together to sort of pull the exhaust gases in one steady direction, improving flow.. Sorry about the rant, just a little FYI.

[dchawk81]

No problem and thanks for the input. That's why I posted the thread.

[dchawk81]

I can piece together a similar setup as I put on my Escort for $188 plus tax. Same series muffler (Walker Quiet Flow SS) and aluminized steel piping. I might go that way instead. I'd rather do all stainless but I can't seem to find the piping.

[dchawk81]

I'm finding almost nothing but 3" in the stainless systems. Nothing OEM size seems to be manufactured in the better steel.

The Magnaflow 15608 is pricey but 3" and stainless from the cat back. As well as being mandrel bent. It also doesn't sound too loud based on the two YouTube videos I found on a 5.4 Expedition.

I'm a bit torn...buy the cheaper setup and be almost stock sound but deal with a lower quality pipe or spend on a truly smooth, all stainless but slightly louder (debatable) and fatter system?

[Jersey_Joe]

I'm finding almost nothing but 3" in the stainless systems. Nothing OEM size seems to be manufactured in the better steel. The Magnaflow 15608 is pricey but 3" and stainless from the cat back. As well as being mandrel bent. It also doesn't sound too loud based on the two YouTube videos I found on a 5.4 Expedition. I'm a bit torn...buy the cheaper setup and be almost stock sound but deal with a lower quality pipe or spend on a truly smooth, all stainless but slightly louder (debatable) and fatter system?

Magnaflow. Really isn't that loud. Just enough to know its there. It's really not that bad. But besides that. They make a great product that they stand behind. I would go with the magnaflow

[RhinoZ24]

Magnaflow. Really isn't that loud. Just enough to know its there. It's really not that bad. But besides that. They make a great product that they stand behind. I would go with the magnaflow

^X2 it's not a Flowmaster so you won't go deaf lol.

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[dchawk81]

That's the impression I got from the videos. It seemed like you only really hear it when he stood on the pedal. Otherwise it's mellow or even silent. My exhaust isn't exactly silent from outside the vehicle when I rev it up, but I can't hear it in the vehicle.

I'd get a Quiet Flow SS muffler like I have on the Escort if I could just find the damned piping in stainless. That sucker is SUPER quiet.

Short of OEM stainless piping, it looks like I will save my pennies and get the Magnaflow. The warranty is appealing. At 194k on the Navigator, it's just being broken in. :D

[Jersey_Joe]

I think the magnaflow would suit u well. But I would t go flowmaster. Good product. I just don't think that's what ur lookin fer

[dchawk81]

I had a Flowmaster on my old Dodge van. Definitely not what I'm wanting. Lol. Nice system but not for me these days.

Especially since I roll up to some pretty posh weddings in the SUV.

[RhinoZ24]

I had a Flowmaster on my old Dodge van. Definitely not what I'm wanting. Lol. Nice system but not for me these days.

Especially since I roll up to some pretty posh weddings in the SUV.

Magnaflow will do you well

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[dchawk81]

I'm going to try to weld the muffler first and see how that goes but beyond that, I'm really leaning hard towards the Magnaflow.

I feel like if I got that cheaper crush bent exhaust pipe I'd always be wondering "what if" - and I hate that. Hell, even the Escort's pipe was an upgrade from crushed to pressure bent.

[RhinoZ24]

Magnaflow, you'll like it for sure.

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[Jersey_Joe]

I'm going to try to weld the muffler first and see how that goes but beyond that, I'm really leaning hard towards the Magnaflow. I feel like if I got that cheaper crush bent exhaust pipe I'd always be wondering "what if" - and I hate that. Hell, even the Escort's pipe was an upgrade from crushed to pressure bent.
GO FOR IT MAN!!!!! I can hear your inner REBEL! Lol

[dchawk81]

Haha. I just want muh stainless.

[dchawk81]

If I got this 3" exhaust and put a cold air intake on the vehicle, would I see performance gains? Without getting headers and/or high flow catalytic converters?

[5pointSlo]

Yes. With a tuber you would for sure. Most of the gain coming from the intake and tuner. Even the most expensive cat backs only produce 5hp or so. That's why I just cut out the resonator and muffler and installed an SLP resonator. Cheaper, louder, same HP gains.

[dchawk81]

I'm definitely not doing that. Lol.

[5pointSlo]

Its surprisingly not obnoxious. Sounds like any other cat back until wot

[dchawk81]

Hmm. Wide open is what concerns me since I romp it quite a bit darting into busy city traffic.

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So here's my sketchy muffler. This is why I'm looking at exhausts now rather than later. It doesn't seem or look worn through yet but it's definitely close.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/02/99acb9d468bab7fd00b8dd9a9dfb7d00.jpg

[RhinoZ24]

It's the rust bucket muffler, looks like the current model year for it too! Lol jk, yup time for a new one for sure.

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[dchawk81]

It's the rust bucket muffler, looks like the current model year for it too! Lol jk, yup time for a new one for sure.

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Haha for sure. I'm almost certain it's factory.

Can't cry too hard if it lasted 16 years.

[RhinoZ24]

Good point and looks like it.

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[dchawk81]

I'll get that Magnaflow unless I find the same/similar for less dough.

I definitely want stainless mandrel bent though.

[RhinoZ24]

I'll get that Magnaflow unless I find the same/similar for less dough.

I definitely want stainless mandrel bent though.

It's way better and Magnaflow it!!

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[dchawk81]

It's way better and Magnaflow it!!

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Haha. Gotta get some pennies to rub together first. And warm weather!

[RhinoZ24]

Good point!

[dchawk81]

So the Magnaflow dropped to $460 on Amazon. Down from $535 when I first looked at it.

I went ahead and bought it.

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http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/09/3508cb0281413a092c54454863587625.jpg

[RhinoZ24]

So the Magnaflow dropped to $460 on Amazon. Down from $535 when I first looked at it.

I went ahead and bought it.

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Ooh nice and shiny!

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[dchawk81]

Ooh nice and shiny!

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I know, right? It's polished stainless. Supposed to be anyway.

[Jersey_Joe]

Sweet deal bud.

[dchawk81]

Cost me $489 after taxes. I didn't think that was horrible considering local places want $625 or so...plus tax on THAT.

[Jersey_Joe]

I ain't mad at ya cuz. Sounds pretty good to me lol

[dchawk81]

Haha. Hopefully the timing will be good in that I work my four days and get it in time for weekend installation.

[Jersey_Joe]

Oh fer sure. You'll have it next weekend. Don't u work there??? Just pic it up. Lol. Or have them drone it to u

[dchawk81]

Oh fer sure. You'll have it next weekend. Don't u work there??? Just pic it up. Lol. Or have them drone it to u
Lmao. It's not at the one I'm in. I'd have seen it. And sat there staring at it and caressing it.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lmao

[RhinoZ24]

Lmao. It's not at the one I'm in. I'd have seen it. And sat there staring at it and caressing it.

Lmao

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[cooperf150-06]

So the Magnaflow dropped to $460 on Amazon. Down from $535 when I first looked at it. I went ahead and bought it. ----------

Nice set up, I had magnaflows on my 06 4.6 before I traded it

[dchawk81]

Nice set up, I had magnaflows on my 06 4.6 before I traded it
Thanks! That's good to know. I might actually see what happens with an intake too eventually.

[cooperf150-06]

Thanks! That's good to know. I might actually see what happens with an intake too eventually.

I had a k&n cold air on mine and also had a programmer

[dchawk81]

Good results with just the intake?

I'm not wanting to do tunes.

[cooperf150-06]

Good results with just the intake? I'm not wanting to do tunes.

Couldn't give an honest answer was the last item I put on. I'm sure it did little to nothing but for the price I went ahead and bought it

[dchawk81]

Haha. Perhaps. I'm more concerned with getting that muffler replaced at this point.

[RhinoZ24]

You won't see gains really with just an intake. And after Alex throwing a bunch of research my way, I'm pretty convinced that unless you have forced induction, there's no need for a CAI.

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[dchawk81]

Dammit I was expecting to double my horsey power and torkz.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lmao

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[dchawk81]

Haha just got tracking. It's coming from either my warehouse or the one across the street.

[trinity south flareside]

nice choice

[RhinoZ24]

Haha just got tracking. It's coming from either my warehouse or the one across the street.

Pick it up yourself lol. Save the shipping cost lmao.

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[dchawk81]

Pick it up yourself lol. Save the shipping cost lmao.

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Haha. It'll be home tomorrow anyway. I told Sharon to look for it when she does truck audits and give it a kiss for me and tell it daddy will see it soon.

[RhinoZ24]

Lmao

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[cooperf150-06]

Haha. It'll be home tomorrow anyway. I told Sharon to look for it when she does truck audits and give it a kiss for me and tell it daddy will see it soon.

Hahaha

[Jersey_Joe]

Haha. It'll be home tomorrow anyway. I told Sharon to look for it when she does truck audits and give it a kiss for me and tell it daddy will see it soon.
SHAROOOOON!

Lmao

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In my near ozzy Osborne voice lol

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Best not near lol

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[dchawk81]

Awwww sheeeeeeeet! :D
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/a9ffe928750b394958dc47ce70dc83be.jpg

[RhinoZ24]

That better be on by the end of the day lol.

[dchawk81]

Oh I wish. Beautiful day for it but I work tonight and can't be too tired to operate what's considered heavy equipment.

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If the cat had a bolt on flange like the Escort does, it'd be on already and you'd have a video. But it's going to need cut out and possibly heated or god knows what. The god knows what part is why I'm not getting into it until the weekend.

[Jersey_Joe]

That better be on by the end of the day lol.
Lmbo

[dchawk81]

FWIW I dragged it off the porch to save it from theives...like it was a dead body.

[RhinoZ24]

FWIW I dragged it off the porch to save it from theives...like it was a dead body.

Yup, I remember the FedEx delivery of my Flowmaster, watched 2 guys unload it and carry it to my house. My 140lb self then proceeded to carry it into the house lol. Well drag rather haha.

[dchawk81]

Yup, I remember the FedEx delivery of my Flowmaster, watched 2 guys unload it and carry it to my house. My 140lb self then proceeded to carry it into the house lol. Well drag rather haha.
Haha. It was actually more awkward than heavy. Big ass box.

[RhinoZ24]

Exactly, I'm short as f***, I couldn't lift that thing very well lol, it was almost as big as me lmao.

[dchawk81]

Exactly, I'm short as f***, I couldn't lift that thing very well lol, it was almost as big as me lmao.

lol same here. I couldn't get my arms around it. Did manage to heave it into the back of the Navigator though.

[RhinoZ24]

Lol, if it's not on it, at least its in it haha.

[dchawk81]

Yep and that's almost as good!

[Jersey_Joe]

That better be on by the end of the day lol.
I'm still laughing.
I sat and looked at boxes fer 6 months. Made me twitch!!!

[cooperf150-06]

I'm still laughing. I sat and looked at boxes fer 6 months. Made me twitch!!!

U had to make sure u had everything lol

[Jersey_Joe]

U had to make sure u had everything lol
Ur the best!
Leave it to your friends to give u the best excesses.

[cooperf150-06]

Ur the best! Leave it to your friends to give u the best excesses.

Always looking out

[RhinoZ24]

I'm still laughing.
I sat and looked at boxes fer 6 months. Made me twitch!!!

Lol, and we still have no idea what was in them either haha.

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[Jersey_Joe]

It has a lot to do with my 4x4 mustang GT lol. I'll say that much on here

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There gettin fast. There is a fella out west that broke the 11's with his. He's supercharged tho. I was gonna throw a blower on but I Gota keep telling myself. It's a daily driver. Not a race car. The race car is the race car lol

[RhinoZ24]

Lmao

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[Jersey_Joe]

Is it on yet? Lol

[RhinoZ24]

I think we're more excited about it than he is lol.

[dchawk81]

Haha sounds like it.

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I do look forward to the weekend but I didn't want to risk having the exhaust part way off, need to get to work, and my luck be that the wagon doesn't start for whatever reason on that particular day.

My weekend starts tomorrow though. So there's that.

[RhinoZ24]

Lol, and so it'll be on by tomorrow night then? Haha

[dchawk81]

Lol, and so it'll be on by tomorrow night then? Haha
Hopefully. Hah.

Tomorrow is the planned workday. Boils down to how difficult the old is to remove. Got a fresh pair of grinding disks here so it's all about that cat clamp. Shouldn't be too bad but we'll see.

[Jersey_Joe]

I think we're more excited about it than he is lol.
Lol yup

[RhinoZ24]

Hopefully. Hah.

Tomorrow is the planned workday. Boils down to how difficult the old is to remove. Got a fresh pair of grinding disks here so it's all about that cat clamp. Shouldn't be too bad but we'll see.

It shouldn't be too bad, but at least you can cut it lol.

[dchawk81]

It shouldn't be too bad, but at least you can cut it lol.
Yeah I'll chop it all out up to the cat and then dick with that part separately.

[RhinoZ24]

Lol, have fun.

[dchawk81]

Yeah...

[dchawk81]

Got it installed. Hangers weren't right though so had to get my dad's help pushing, pulling, bending, modifying.

But it doesn't bang or hit. Has a nice sound too. Pretty much as quiet as my old system when it's not pulling hard ie cruising or idle and a nice low growl when getting on the pedal.

Video to follow.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Ail-zcYWA

[cooperf150-06]

Man that sounds pretty good, good job

[dchawk81]

Man that sounds pretty good, good job

Thanks! I'm actually okay with this bit of noise.

Interestingly I got the old exhaust off without cutting anything. Just had to get my father to heat it while I yanked and twisted.

[cooperf150-06]

Thanks! I'm actually okay with this bit of noise. Interestingly I got the old exhaust off without cutting anything. Just had to get my father to heat it while I yanked and twisted.

It was under there awhile lol so I'm sure it did give u an issue

[Jersey_Joe]

Got it installed. Hangers weren't right though so had to get my dad's help pushing, pulling, bending, modifying. But it doesn't bang or hit. Has a nice sound too. Pretty much as quiet as my old system when it's not pulling hard ie cruising or idle and a nice low growl when getting on the pedal. Video to follow. ---------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Ail-zcYWA
Mmm mmm Mmm.
Sounds awesome brother

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And that's right up ur ally. Nice tone. But suttle

[dchawk81]

I took a grinder to the old clamp and beat it out of the way. Then I got the exhaust wiggle loose but needed heat to get over the pinch. Wasn't as difficult as expected, but took two people which I wasn't expecting.

Installation was actually the bigger pain in the butt and more time consuming than removal.

Took about two hours in all. Maybe two and a half.

[Jersey_Joe]

Glad u like it. Sounds good

[dchawk81]

Mmm mmm Mmm.
Sounds awesome brother

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And that's right up ur ally. Nice tone. But suttle
Thanks. Yeah I like it. The cat looks to be almost 3" as well ( 2 7/8" maybe) so I should have nice consistent flow now as opposed to being gradually choked off.

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I'm glad too. That would be an expensive mistake otherwise. :P

[dchawk81]

Drove downtown and romped it in front of a Christian social center. That was fun.

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Also took it on the interstate and it does drone at 70mph but not horribly. I believe it'll be okay.

[dchawk81]

I just realized that post made it sound like I targeted a Christian night spot. Hah. It just happened that I saw people outside and romped it then remembered that's what it is. I played around all through town though. It echoes off the buildings and sounds mean. :P

[Jersey_Joe]

Your welcome. Not like we "twisted" your arm we nothin. Lol. Told ya bud. I knew u would dig it

High fives to ryno!!! We did it again ! Good job!

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Lmao

[dchawk81]

Hah. It's louder than I would have liked but I'll deal with it since...well...I bent the hangers to make it fit.

It's funny though because no one expects a Lincoln Navigator to make any noise.

[RhinoZ24]

Got it installed. Hangers weren't right though so had to get my dad's help pushing, pulling, bending, modifying.

But it doesn't bang or hit. Has a nice sound too. Pretty much as quiet as my old system when it's not pulling hard ie cruising or idle and a nice low growl when getting on the pedal.

Video to follow.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Ail-zcYWA

Sounds great! Glad you like it too!

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Your welcome. Not like we "twisted" your arm we nothin. Lol. Told ya bud. I knew u would dig it

High fives to ryno!!! We did it again ! Good job!

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Lmao

Yeah we did lol.

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[dchawk81]

Haha. It starts with a fat exhaust...

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This whole Magnaflow thing has backfired.

Anyone wanna buy an Escort wagon?

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Brought my mother some McD's coffee and she said she never heard me coming. That's a good thing since I took it easy pulling in. That means it can be quiet enough when necessary: rolling through church/country club parking lots and such.

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http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/15/620dc23c2ac3fb24af85e8d1692c1f9a.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/15/de60fe5cebfa6fda665d1b3c41fd9562.jpg

[Jersey_Joe]

Created a monster lmao. Glad ur happy bud. That's awesome

[dchawk81]

Created a monster lmao. Glad ur happy bud. That's awesome

Mwahahahahahaha.

And stuff.

[dchawk81]

Well this isn't cool.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/15/c5a7add323fec3fba975111b2d5cdb25.jpg

Guess I'll have to cut it.

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Ground it off for now. Still looks like crap but hopefully I can take a file to it and make it look better.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/15/6bdf9f7d87014af0223b00d7b5eb4a82.jpg

[Jersey_Joe]

Wtf?!?!? R u kidding me?

[dchawk81]

Totally melting my bumper. I knew it was close but I didn't think it would even get that hot back there. Especially with that fake tip on it giving some buffer.

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I should bring this up with Magnaflow. See what they have to say.

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I'm going to contact some local performance exhaust shops and see if they can cut a half circle out and make it look factory-ish.

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I guess all I really need is a 4-1/2" or 5" hole saw and file to smooth the edges.

[cooperf150-06]

Well this isn't cool. Guess I'll have to cut it. ---------- Ground it off for now. Still looks like crap but hopefully I can take a file to it and make it look better.

Ouch, that sucks

[dchawk81]

I don't think Magnaflow realized that the Navigators have plastic bumpers when they designed this exhaust. It looks like all the Expeditions have steel bumpers and the quarter panel comes all the way down.

[RhinoZ24]

Haha. It starts with a fat exhaust...

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This whole Magnaflow thing has backfired.

Anyone wanna buy an Escort wagon?

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Brought my mother some McD's coffee and she said she never heard me coming. That's a good thing since I took it easy pulling in. That means it can be quiet enough when necessary: rolling through church/country club parking lots and such.

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So shiny...

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Well this isn't cool.

Guess I'll have to cut it.

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Ground it off for now. Still looks like crap but hopefully I can take a file to it and make it look better.


Wtf? Mine never did that and there's plastic right above it.

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[dchawk81]

So shiny...

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Wtf? Mine never did that and there's plastic right above it.

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Mine's more beast, obviously.

[dchawk81]

Managed to "turn" the tailpipe on the muffler and create a little more clearance. Stretches the heck out of the rubber hanger though.

[RhinoZ24]

Mine's more beast, obviously.

Lol that's what you think.

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[dchawk81]

Lol that's what you think.

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[emoji38]

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[dchawk81]

Don't I have like, 0.8 more liters of vroom? That would explain everything.

[Jersey_Joe]

That will make u fast!!!! All u need now is a sticker!!!! Lol

[dchawk81]

That will make u fast!!!! All u need now is a sticker!!!! Lol

Four stickers. Two stripes for the hood, two stripes for the roof.

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Speaking of pointless, I saw (and heard) yet another Honda with a coffee can sticking under its rear bumper. Couldn't help but rev the Navigator when he was directly beside me.

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I have become a manchild once again.

[Jersey_Joe]

Exhaust does that to ya. Lol. Welcome to the club.

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Unless. U like zero fun
Bland is just never good fer me lol. It's like steak. U don't just want to eat steak. U want that b*•+! To go BAMM in ur mouth lol

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And we all know who likes zero fun

[Jersey_Joe]

8341

[dchawk81]

Haha. I still don't peg the floor much but I do like that low end growl. To me it sounds best at around 1800-2000 RPM under load.

It's too cold for windows down though obviously so at the high RPMs it's more engine than exhaust as far as I can tell.

[RhinoZ24]

That's what they are designed for, that highway speed rpm range. And stickers make me go faster!! Lol jk.

[AlbertaOilPatchF150]

^^^^ Speed stickers!!! LOL

[dchawk81]

Speecals.

[AlbertaOilPatchF150]

Hahaha!!! :D

[dchawk81]

I'm trying to tell myself the Magnaflow is the MATURE manchild's performance exhaust.

[Jersey_Joe]

Is it workin?

[RhinoZ24]

I'm trying to tell myself the Magnaflow is the MATURE manchild's performance exhaust.

Lmao, keep telling yourself that.

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[dchawk81]

Drove it to work. So yeah the delusion is effective.

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[dchawk81]

Good thing I drove it today. A co-worker needed a jump and my cables happened to be in it.

[Jersey_Joe]

Ur such a good boy. Lol

[dchawk81]

I know.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lol

[RhinoZ24]

Good thing I drove it today. A co-worker needed a jump and my cables happened to be in it.

Admit it, you just like the sound too much to go back to the Escort haha.

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[Jersey_Joe]

X2-x3

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

[dchawk81]

Haha I can't afford not to go back to the Escort.

[RhinoZ24]

Haha, if you can contain the lead foot with the new exhaust tone then maybe you can. But good luck with that lol.

[dchawk81]

Yeah not happening. Unless I'm on the highway with cruise on.

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Taking it to an exhaust shop for an estimate on getting that bumper cut out and finished off professionally. They do a lot of custom work around here.

[RhinoZ24]

That'll be nice. Eventually I'm going to redo my whole exhaust again. Need a slightly less droney exhaust and I want it to be a dual exit on the passenger side. Need some custom work for that.

[dchawk81]

Yeah I want it to look professional, if not factory. He said they do that stuff all the time and it won't be a problem. The problem is they're busy as hell so I couldn't get an appointment until Dec 3rd. But they do good work so it'll be worth the wait.

That'll be cool. Do you have drone at all speeds or just on the highway?

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His game plan is to cut it (obviously) then finish it by scraping it smooth with razor blades and then sanding it down. Should look pretty sharp.

[cooperf150-06]

Glad to see u able to get it fixed right

[dchawk81]

Yeah normally I'd DIY but by the time I purchased a hole saw bit, mandrel, hacksaw, and whatever else I might need I'd be spending more than just throwing a local business some cash. PLUS I'd have to do it in the freezing cold.

Screw that. Here's money, Justin. Do it.

lol

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah I want it to look professional, if not factory. He said they do that stuff all the time and it won't be a problem. The problem is they're busy as hell so I couldn't get an appointment until Dec 3rd. But they do good work so it'll be worth the wait.

That'll be cool. Do you have drone at all speeds or just on the highway?

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His game plan is to cut it (obviously) then finish it by scraping it smooth with razor blades and then sanding it down. Should look pretty sharp.

At all speeds under acceleration basically but only at highway speeds when cruising. If I stay under 60 or go over 70 I'm good.

[dchawk81]

Same as mine basically. My drone is low and deep.

[RhinoZ24]

Mine is loud and deep lol.

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[dchawk81]

What's your setup again?

[RhinoZ24]

Flowmaster Catback system, American Thunder with the Series 40 muffler SI/DO, dual side exit.

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[dchawk81]

Oh you're redneck.

[RhinoZ24]

Damn straight, somebody needs to bring down the hippie levels here in CA haha.

[dchawk81]

Damn straight, somebody needs to bring down the hippie levels here in CA haha.

lol. One F-150 = 72 Priuses (Prii?).

[RhinoZ24]

Lmao

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[dchawk81]

You should make a video so we can hear it. I'm curious. Especially if you can capture the interior drone.

I'll try to do the same.

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It's a little long but here's mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMbhfFyljg

[Jersey_Joe]

I think he did already tbh. Sounded pretty good

[dchawk81]

Hmm. I don't remember seeing/hearing it.

[Jersey_Joe]

I think he put it up when he put his exhaust on. While ago

[dchawk81]

Before I ever joined perhaps?

[Jersey_Joe]

I think so

[dchawk81]

Hmm. Might explain why I don't recall seeing it in conversation.

Or, it could be that my memory is absolutely garbage.

[RhinoZ24]

Hmm. Might explain why I don't recall seeing it in conversation.

Or, it could be that my memory is absolutely garbage.

It was a long time ago in some thread I don't remember haha. I'll have to try and find it on youtube cause it was on a buddies account not mine.

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[dchawk81]

It was a long time ago in some thread I don't remember haha. I'll have to try and find it on youtube cause it was on a buddies account not mine.

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Haha get on it bro! :D

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[dchawk81]

[emoji12] [emoji48]

[dchawk81]

Melty McMelterson

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/28/16f9e1c1f8f735cc266944a1b71bf47f.jpg

[Jersey_Joe]

That blows bro

[dchawk81]

F'real. Looking forward to the customization.

[Jersey_Joe]

I'll bet

[RhinoZ24]

F'real. Looking forward to the customization.

Its already customized lol

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[dchawk81]

Haha it's putting out some serious heat to be still melting the bumper despite the clearance. I know it's not a lot of clearance, but still. Hah

[RhinoZ24]

Haha it's putting out some serious heat to be still melting the bumper despite the clearance. I know it's not a lot of clearance, but still. Hah

Mines about the same but I guess my plastic is a little tougher

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[dchawk81]

Mines about the same but I guess my plastic is a little tougher

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Mine isn't made of much, that's for sure.

[RhinoZ24]

Obviously lol

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[dchawk81]

It's STILL melting. Gonna have to get me a Dremel and just take more off little by little until I see it no longer getting wavy.

[Jersey_Joe]

Really? That sucks dude

[dchawk81]

Yeah apparently it's blowing crazy hot air, because it looks like a blow dryer is hitting it. It's not from the metal itself anymore, just the air coming off it.

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That plastic is ridiculously thin though too.

[Jersey_Joe]

Maybe your just giving it to much gas. Mr I don't want an exhaust lol

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Lol jk

[dchawk81]

Haha. VERY likely.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lol

[dchawk81]

Despite my playing around I'm still averaging 14mpg or better. I'd get that with the old exhaust and NO playing around.

[RexReid]

If you go with a better flowing exhaust, is that going to make it run lien and hotter? Or is the computer going to compensate? I haven't kept up with the changing times.

[dchawk81]

If you go with a better flowing exhaust, is that going to make it run lien and hotter? Or is the computer going to compensate? I haven't kept up with the changing times.
I think the computer compensates since it's fuel injected and not carbureted. Power wise at least it doesn't feel like it's getting less fuel. It hauls.

[RhinoZ24]

It's breathing easier, more air out means more air can come in. With more air in the mix the amount of fuel needed can go down...supposedly. Usually it's not a big gain at all.

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[dchawk81]

It's breathing easier, more air out means more air can come in. With more air in the mix the amount of fuel needed can go down...supposedly. Usually it's not a big gain at all.

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The AFR needs to be the same no matter what. More air in should mean more fuel in.

But this is about exit only since I didn't change a single thing about the intake.

What that means is I have no idea. [emoji14]

[Jersey_Joe]

U need a wide band gauge. Works like a champ

[RhinoZ24]

The AFR needs to be the same no matter what. More air in should mean more fuel in.

But this is about exit only since I didn't change a single thing about the intake.

What that means is I have no idea. [emoji14]

Your intake is pulling more air than your truck can use, so if suddenly more is allowed to exit, more can come in. And that's not necessarily true, the A/F ratio is adjusted to make the engine run as best as possible. When I ha leaves in my intake blocking my air filter, my mpg was about 11 compare to 14 now. The ECU compensated by dumping more fuel to make up for the loss of air and power. But yes you are right with just an exhaust not much will change. I didn't see any mpg gain with mine, well maybe because I floor it too much lol.

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[dchawk81]

Your intake is pulling more air than your truck can use, so if suddenly more is allowed to exit, more can come in. And that's not necessarily true, the A/F ratio is adjusted to make the engine run as best as possible. When I ha leaves in my intake blocking my air filter, my mpg was about 11 compare to 14 now. The ECU compensated by dumping more fuel to make up for the loss of air and power. But yes you are right with just an exhaust not much will change. I didn't see any mpg gain with mine, well maybe because I floor it too much lol.

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I'm pretty sure the point of the throttle body is to pull in exactly the amount of air it can use. No more, no less.

Unless of course there's a *problem* - which fortunately I do not currently have.

As far as MPG gain, I won't really know for sure until I get a long drive on the highway to Maryland. Those are my apples.

[RhinoZ24]

Intake not throttle body lol. I'm talking about all tgat plastic tubing before the throttle body.

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[dchawk81]

I've always considered the whole system the intake. Like how everything from the headers to the tailpipe is the exhaust.

[RexReid]

I think the computer compensates since it's fuel injected and not carbureted. Power wise at least it doesn't feel like it's getting less fuel. It hauls.

I think it should too. Still, if it is running too hot, the plugs will say so. It might be worth checking. Good luck.

[RhinoZ24]

I've always considered the whole system the intake. Like how everything from the headers to the tailpipe is the exhaust.

Ok then, I'll specify next time lol.

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[dchawk81]

I think it should too. Still, if it is running too hot, the plugs will say so. It might be worth checking. Good luck.
Doesn't seem to be according to the water temperature gauge. Sits right around the 1/3 mark as always.

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Ok then, I'll specify next time lol.

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Good idea. ;)

[RexReid]

Doesn't seem to be according to the water temperature gauge. Sits right around the 1/3 mark as always.

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Good idea. ;)

It wouldn't be enough to raise the water temp even if the cylinder heads were too hot. The only way to know is to pull some plugs and see if they are white.

[dchawk81]

I'll have to look after I'm fired from my job for not giving a crap anymore. Lol.

No but seriously. It's too bitter cold and I don't have enough time off yet. Next week probably.

[Jersey_Joe]

I'll have to look after I'm fired from my job for not giving a crap anymore. Lol. No but seriously. It's too bitter cold and I don't have enough time off yet. Next week probably.
Deep breath. KCCO my brother!

[RexReid]

I'll have to look after I'm fired from my job for not giving a crap anymore. Lol.

No but seriously. It's too bitter cold and I don't have enough time off yet. Next week probably.

Yesterday I told my boss off. I mumbled "idiot" under my breath and as much as it was true--I couldn't fire myself.

[dchawk81]

Deep breath. KCCO my brother!
KCCO?

Yesterday I told my boss off. I mumbled "idiot" under my breath and as much as it was true--I couldn't fire myself.
Haha. A real man calls himself an idiot out loud. Coward.

[RhinoZ24]

Yesterday I told my boss off. I mumbled "idiot" under my breath and as much as it was true--I couldn't fire myself.

Lol

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[RexReid]

KCCO?

Haha. A real man calls himself an idiot out loud. Coward.

My hearing really sucks, so it doesn't matter.

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KCCO?

Haha. A real man calls himself an idiot out loud. Coward.

I thought of another one. I never said I was a real man, but unlike Manti Teo, our linebacker, I have a real girlfriend!

[Jersey_Joe]

KCCO? Haha. A real man calls himself an idiot out loud. Coward.
Keep calm and chive on

Get into the chive. Check out there app. It's free. And prob the coolest site on earth for a guy

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My hearing really sucks, so it doesn't matter. ---------- I thought of another one. I never said I was a real man, but unlike Manti Teo, our linebacker, I have a real girlfriend!
No u don't. Lol jk

[Jersey_Joe]

8520

[AlbertaOilPatchF150]

Keep calm and chive on

Get into the chive. Check out there app. It's free. And prob the coolest site on earth for a guy

Lots of boobs on that site :)

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no u don't. Lol jk

lol

[RhinoZ24]

Lots of boobs on that site :)

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lol

Exactly why it's so great haha

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[dchawk81]

Haha.

[AlbertaOilPatchF150]

Cant go wrong with boobs lol

[dchawk81]

Spoken like someone who hasn't watched enough porn.

[AlbertaOilPatchF150]

hahaha

[RhinoZ24]

Lmao

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[dchawk81]

Bumper still melting. :(

[RhinoZ24]

Still?

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[dchawk81]

Yeah.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lead foot lol

[dchawk81]

Hah not even.

Well, sometimes.

[RhinoZ24]

Lead foot lol

Lmao

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[Jersey_Joe]

Hah not even. Well, sometimes.
Me too Me too brother. My gas milage has had a dip since I installed the full exhaust. Can't keep my foot out of jt Just sounds so good. LOVE IT! So the melting is just u having fun. Just chalk it up as a win. Lol.

[dchawk81]

No really I'm not into it that much at all. Normal driving 99% of the time...meandering to the highway then cruising at 68mph to and from work. Every now and then I hop on it going through town but that might be once a month for a few blocks.

[Jersey_Joe]

Lol.

[dchawk81]

It's ridiculous. I need a Dremel.

[RhinoZ24]

It's ridiculous. I need a Dremel.

Good investment it seems like lol

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[Jersey_Joe]

It's ridiculous. I need a Dremel.
Yup. Good for trimmin the dogs nails too

[dchawk81]

True enough. Plus lots of other jobs I can't think of until I need to do them.

[RhinoZ24]

I think I'm gunna get my whole exhaust redone this summer, forget the rest of the warranty. Damn thing keeps rattling loose. If I tighten the clamps anymore I'm gunna start choking off the pipe itself. Maybe I can get warranty on that from Flowmaster and then have a muffler shop weld my new system together.

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[dchawk81]

Good idea.

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah

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[dchawk81]

Yeah

[Jersey_Joe]

I think I'm gunna get my whole exhaust redone this summer, forget the rest of the warranty. Damn thing keeps rattling loose. If I tighten the clamps anymore I'm gunna start choking off the pipe itself. Maybe I can get warranty on that from Flowmaster and then have a muffler shop weld my new system together. Dodge Sucks, Chevy Swallows, Toyota's the Turd
Man! You know. Ur the second person to say that today. I did my own. I'm blessed that I can and did. But I would look into new clamps? Cut a peice out. Make a peice to replace and get two clamps to fix? U seem like u can handle that. I dunno what it costs in Cali to get it done. Flowmaster is there. U could prob go pick it up urself lol. But around here shops want a pecker and three nutz to make a "custom" exhaust. I rolled my ends this time around and kept them hidden. I'm really diggin the look. But u can do it man ! Get ur jacks. Tools. And get under there and go get dirty! Lol

[dchawk81]

Wait is this exhaust already all new?

Mine came with bands instead of clamps though, FWIW. No pinching.

[Jersey_Joe]

Wait is this exhaust already all new? Mine came with bands instead of clamps though, FWIW. No pinching.
His is at least a year old

[RhinoZ24]

Man! You know. Ur the second person to say that today. I did my own. I'm blessed that I can and did. But I would look into new clamps? Cut a peice out. Make a peice to replace and get two clamps to fix? U seem like u can handle that. I dunno what it costs in Cali to get it done. Flowmaster is there. U could prob go pick it up urself lol. But around here shops want a pecker and three nutz to make a "custom" exhaust. I rolled my ends this time around and kept them hidden. I'm really diggin the look. But u can do it man ! Get ur jacks. Tools. And get under there and go get dirty! Lol

No jacks required when I did it the first time lol. And it's not just that, with clamps water inevitably seeps out from the exhaust and causes it to rust where all the pipes are clamped together. I'd rather have it welded so it's solid and won't rust like that. I'm gunna get a few quotes from around here to see what it's gunna cost. If its too much I have a coworker that finished welding school about a year ago and I'll see if he'll do it lol.

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His is at least a year old

Try 2 years and 2 months haha. Have till November for the warranty.

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[dchawk81]

I'd invoke the warranty first if possible.

[RhinoZ24]

That's what I'm gunna try, if I can get a brand new new system through it, it shouldn't be too much for a shop to weld it together.

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[dchawk81]

My Escort exhaust was fully welded and it rusted along the bottom where water laid in. There's a rust line going the whole way back.

I don't think there really is a complete win with the whole clamps vs welds thing.

[RhinoZ24]

It'd still probably be less than what it is now.

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[dchawk81]

Less what?

[RhinoZ24]

Less rust

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[dchawk81]

Ah gotcha. Hard to tell. I think it'd be a wash really.

[RhinoZ24]

Well I uber tightened the clamps this time, we'll see what happens now.

[Jersey_Joe]

Über !!!!!

[RhinoZ24]

Lol

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[RexReid]

"Uber"

adverb
1.
having the specified property to an extreme or excessive degree; very:
an uber fancy restaurant.

adjective
2.
designating a person or thing that exceeds the norms or limits of its kind or class:
uber intellectuals."

That means that he really tightened them.

[Jersey_Joe]

That's why he said über lol

[dchawk81]

He übered them. Umlauted and EVERYTHING.

[RhinoZ24]

That's why he said über lol

Exactly lol

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He übered them. Umlauted and EVERYTHING.

Well I left that part out, but yes it was intended in German lol

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[anaheim_drew]

I dunno what it costs in Cali to get it done. Flowmaster is there. U could prob go pick it up urself lol. But around here shops want a pecker and three nutz to make a "custom" exhaust. Lol
Shops that do custom exhaust near us are a dime a dozen and the good ones are not expensive.

[Jersey_Joe]

Well that's cool. Can't beat that. I'll b damned if I would pay all that $$$$. I'll just do it myslef

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Well that's cool. Can't beat that. I'll b damned if I would pay all that $$$$. I'll just do it myself

[RhinoZ24]

Yeah, CA does have a billion of the same kind of store in a short distance away. I guess that's a plus to living here lol.

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[anaheim_drew]

Not all of them offer mandrel bending

[RhinoZ24]

Very true

[dchawk81]

Yeah mine is mandrel bent.

[RhinoZ24]

So is mine, but if I wanted it welded I would a find a shop that offers pipes that are mandrel bent

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